Thursday, March 23, 2017

Person of Interest: The Final Analysis and Defense

Intro:

WARNING: There aren't many, but there are definitely spoilers from season 5 below.

Over the past few years, a friend family has been watching person of Interest and I am over there quite often when they watch an episode--it's been a few years, and they only just watched episode 4 of season 4, so it's not a super rapid pace by any stretch of any imagination, so there is a little more time to process between episodes. After watching that episode, there was an ensuing discussion about characters, especially as Elias reappeared in the episode. Then the issue of Root came up, in which I was not sure I agreed with the reading of Root as originally a sadist. I've mulled it over considerably since and come to the conclusion that, while she does enjoy killing and causing pain, she is not a regular sadist and that what she actually is is significant for core themes of the show.

This has, in turn, led to some further pondering and a formulation of the central issue of the show, a final analysis of what it all means.

But I won't be starting with Root or Elias. I'm going to try to take this systematically.

Harold, Ideologies, and Conversions

The center of the show always has been Harold and his concern for human life. That was the reason for building the back door for the irrelevant numbers, and it was basically the argument he gave John at the very beginning: you need a purpose, you need a job. And I think he was being honest, not just manipulative, in phrasing it that he has a concern for John's life and well-being as much as he has a need for somebody to do the legwork. And Harold "teaching" the machine to care about each human life for its own sake, rather than simply as part of an "x" in a formulaic utilitarian directive it is given "preserve as much of 'x' as possible in net terms" (which is the basic root premise of "relevant to national security") was one of the ongoing flashback elements of the show, and arguments with Root over why he did it was a recurring trope in the present time.

The main thing set against this concern for life, I would argue, is ideology in various forms, but by the end of the show, the most prominent (in two key players) has been the ideology of the evolution of thought and control in the AI. Root's form was "let it evolve and stomp round the earth like an angry Tiamat" (the great sea dragoness mother of all the gods in the Enuma Elish, the Babylonian creation epic), and Greer's is "let it evolve and organize every aspect of our lives into one big intricate computer program." And then we have a cast of ideologies and quasi-ideologies along the way: Elias's original new La Cosa Nostra vendetta, Alonso Quinn's "my city" as much as "my money" (I think he saw himself as the person most representative of the city), Vigilance's "by the blood of patriots and tyrants," Control's "patriotism," and Dominic's gangsta "only one rule: we all die in the end." But the ones that I would call the mindsets that are full-on ideology and that define the tension in the narrative arc of the show as a whole are Root and Greer.

And the grand project in the show has been conversions. The producers clearly stated that they had plans for a conversion/redemption of Root by the end of the show all the way back when they introduced her at the end of season 1. I would argue that Greer has always been known to be unconvertable. John, Shaw, Elias, Root, and Fusco are, I think, to be seen as the main converts of the show, and I will get to the details of each in turn (as well as to Greer as the main non-convert).

John, Carter, and Fusco: Friendship and Pre-converts

I hope that what I just said about Root's and Greer's ideologies does not cheapen John, or even Carter or Fusco, but especially John. The show starts with John for a reason, and that is the the friendship. I would argue that a sort of family grows up around Harold (including awesome cousin-types like Zoe and Leon), but before that, the real core of Harold, the most visible form of his concern for human life outside of the construct of having set up the machine this way and having this project at all, is seen in his development of a friendship with John. Even though he is a "very private person," there is an undertone of reaching out to another human being for connection.

I would call John a pre-convert because, really, as we see in the Dillinger episode in season 3, he already had a bent toward, at the very least, not spilling more blood than was necessary and not killing innocents. So, he doesn't really have all that far to go to buy Harold's general way of seeing things on saving life, but he does need to be converted to the idea that he can make a difference and have a positive reason to keep living, that this project can do that for him (in short, the ideology from which he must convert is that of personal despair). That idea is challenged after Carter's death in mid-season 3, when he says he is getting out of the game, and it is the thing that makes his death at the end acceptable: you always knew he was living on borrowed time, but what he got in the show was the chance to use that borrowed time for good, to be redeemed and feel redeemed. That's why he's smiling in the rooftop standoff at the end.

Carter is really the one who needs the least converting to valuing human life, if any at all. If Harold is more advanced than her in that respect in any way, it is only that his experience has had a broader scope because of the national-government scope involved in the machine, which naturally lends itself more to pondering a principle as such, and in the practical, the machine covers the whole of the five boroughs, rather than just one precinct. What Carter takes convincing on the most is that these guys who are operating outside the normal parameters can be trusted to be doing the right thing and worthy of not arresting, but rather working with.

Fusco rules. That is just one of the things about the show that doesn't even need to be stated. If you can't realize that, then you should go watch a different show. But there is an obvious question of why I am putting him under the "pre-converts" section, because at the beginning, he obviously needs to change his ways. But I would argue that, once he does change his ways, and especially in season 4 when he is pushing back against John's freewheeling style of being a cop as his cover and telling John he has to be a cop for real, he has to do the job and that there is a code that comes with it, we see something different than simply somebody who became a devoted watchdog kind of convert from lifelong selfish ways. I would argue that we see a bit of the Fusco who originally joined the force because he wanted to be a cop to do good in the world, Fusco before he slid down the slope of his partner Stills. What John gives him is not so much a reason to con-vert, but a motivation to re-vert (although John's own motivations in doing so were a little more base, using Fusco for info and gruntwork). This is evident in the fact that, at a certain point, Carter was able to take over from John but not with material motivation, but rather with emotional motivation of admiration and hope for actually becoming a better person and cop.

Shaw

Shaw is an interesting character. On one level, well, mainly for guys, she's a hot chick who can kick ass. I don't mean to downplay her for that, but it is just a reality of film and TV in the present age, especially TV, that that sort of thing happens. But she is a pretty simple character: psychological quasi-sociopathic background, gets into this government work, realizes it's kind of jacked when Hirsch tries to kill her, but she has some core of "fighting for the good guys" that she is able to spin with relative ease toward Harold's crew and finds a place of acceptance.

Then you have that complication with the need for special treatment of the character in season 4 if not completely writing her out because of the pregnancy with twins. At the time I was like, "you should just have her dead ... I don't dislike her as an actress or dislike the character, but anything else feels like rearranging things just to keep the hot chick in the show." But I actually think they did an interesting thing with it by the end (the steamy scene in the "6,741" episode was completely gratuitous on all levels, but beyond that). I think they had already had a little groundwork laid for it that I'll discuss a little below when talking about Root, and what came after the hiatus is that her character provides material for development of Root's character. Root's homoerotic flirting never goes away, but there seems to be an unspoken "but you know I am mainly just letting you know that I still hope, and that when I say that I am concerned for this other issue you're having I really actually am concerned about it and do care, in my own way, and it's not just a biding-my-time ruse to try to get in on the lesbian thing the first chance I get." And the being able to get less focused on the sexual thing and allow concern for Shaw's psychological struggle is a progression in Root's character from the focus on the "I want" to the "you need." Admittedly, Schrödinger's cat and "what if we're all information anyway?" may be a bit of a weird way to try to have a positive impact, but I think she is genuinely trying to help and not just to reel Shaw in to a relationship.

Elias:
Before I get to what Elias is, I would like to list a big reason I find Elias interesting, especially once he is pitted against Dominic in season 4, but it is also a reason I found HR interesting: it is simply a reality of human existence that you can never do the type of thing Harold wants to do with the machine without being noticed by power players who will try to move in and utilize it. If you're having an effect in saving lives, they will probably notice (especially if it's lives they themselves are trying to end) and try to take whatever you have that is enabling you to do it and put it in their own arsenal.

So, the question for this reading of the series is "what is Elias? What is his ideology?" In short, as far as what he is, he is the monster that La Cosa Nostra, the Italian mafia, created and that undoes it. He is the disowned bastard son of one of the heads of the five families who builds himself a power base and then comes out if hiding with a vengeance and kills all of the heads of the five families and consolidates all of their realms under his own flag.

But he does so for more than the power. He does so out of vengeance for what they have done to him in the act of his father disowning his existence. He hates their system and networks of power. And they hate him ... for the brief span of time when they know who he is and what he is up to, before he blows them all to hell.

A Comparison for Explanation:
In order to explore Elias's character, I need to make an exposition of another recent mobster movie for the purpose of comparing Elias to the main character in that film,  Live by Night with Ben Affleck. I can't say that I recommend this film. It's not the most violent I have seen, but the payoff of redemption/hope/way forward versus violence is definitely on the light side. But the character does make a good analogy for clarifying a little better how I read Elias in PoI.

So, I need to do here a short(ish) synopsis of the pertinent parts of that film. Affleck plays a young Irish hood in Boston ... not a "gangster," but a small-time hood. In that world, a "gangster" is an actual soldier for one of the mafias, either the Italians or the Irish. Affleck has returned from fighting in the war and realized he has no place in the "normal" society, but he does not want to work for the families, to be a gangster, and so he does small bank and other armed robbery heists with his own small independent crew. He knows the head of the Irish mafia loosely, but does not work for him. In fact, he is "involved" with that head's girlfriend (not wife) on the sly. Then he is approached by the head of the Italian mafia, who brings him in and tells him "I know you're having an affair with his girlfriend, and I want you to be my inside man to help me kill him, or I will make sure that he finds out about you and his girlfriend." Affleck says no, that he does not want to become a gangster. So the head of the Italian family makes sure the head of the Irish family knows about the affair, as he threatened to do. This is the first of the acts on the part of the mafias that I will call the "old-school" mafia mentality: powerplayers who are usually enemies helping each other out against people against whom they both have a grudge or a problem.

The Irish head then has Affleck beat within an inch of his life, stopping short of killing him only because Affleck's father intervenes, who is a cop (played by Brendan Gleason) who is not involved but knows who the players are and what is going on and refrains from intervening sometimes out of  savvy motives, but here he intervenes to save his sons life. He then puts Affleck secretly in an out of the way hospital while he heals.

After healing, Affleck goes to the head of the Italian mafia and says he will work for him. His proposed plan is to go down to Florida where the head of the Irish mafia is rumored to be hiding out, disgraced and beaten for the most part but making money manufacturing rum with materials from the Cubans and bootlegging it back up north (this is during prohibition). Affleck's plan is to start doing the same himself under the Italian's flag and basically push the Irish head into destitution by taking his business. So they do this, and Affleck makes tons of money for the Italians with his own crew, his right-hand man being his old friend from his old heist gang.

While there, He falls in love with a Cuban girl played by Zoe Saldana (the Cubans are the "salt of the earth" natural people removed from the power plays and simply selling them the molasses for rum and making their own for their own community lifestyle of more natural and simple small, but definitely festive celebrating, lots of Cuban dancing kind of thing). But he also gets it in his head that it would be very profitable to go into the gambling business, and even has a casino half built. For him, this would be going legit (being a real business man rather than a gangster) if they can get gambling legalized in Florida. But that is where it runs into problems, the getting it legalized.

There is a sheriff (played by Brett Cullen, our own Nathan Ingram in PoI) who is a necessary person to be in good graces with, who does not get involved but looks the other way for a price as long as the gangsters stay within certain bounds, telling Affleck that he will have no problems as long as he keeps his operations within certain geographical boundaries in the city. Now, the sheriff also has a daughter just out of highschool who has a dream of going to Hollywood to be in movies. Unfortunately, on the way there, she is taken in and tuned into a heroin addict. Affleck finds out about this and has his men go get her and take her to a safe but undisclosed location to get off addiction and tells the sheriff of all this and says he will return her to him for some favors of a bigger level than he usually gets involved in.

The sheriff takes the deal and the girl returns to Florida. Once she is there, she becomes somewhat of a public person as a religious revivalist style speaker opposing all forms of vice ... including, you guessed it, gambling. Her influence is getting in the way of the legalizing effort, and Affleck goes to her to try to convince her to lay off that particular vice, but to no avail. So the Italian head wants him to kill her, but that is a line he won't cross. Eventually, the girl commits suicide, but not before her movement has ruined at least Afflekc's attempts to get gambling legalized.

So, the Italian head comes down to Florida and has a meeting with Affleck in a villa they have strongly secured with Italian muscle/gunmen, and Affleck can guess what is coming ... retribution for not killing the girl. During the meeting, the Italian head at first offers Affleck an out: he can train the head's piggish son in the operation down there and the son will take over and Affleck will work for him. But the issue of not killing the girl also comes up, and Affleck replies by noting how much money he has made for the Italian head while down there. The Italian head agrees and renews his "offer" to train and then work under the son. And after Affleck says yes, the Italian head calls in none other than ... the disheveled and run down head of the Irish mafia, who has a tommy gun.

This is the second action of the "old school" mentality. The Italian head hates the Irish head, but as a mobster, what he hates worse is the same thing the Irish head hates, a guy who will think for himself and not be a loyal company man who follows all orders, in this case not killing the girl when told to. To avenge his grudge for this, he will work with the Irish head whom he hates because that will be more of a slap in the face to Affleck than just killing him outright.

(Aside: To close the story: Affleck wins, killing both the Italian head and his son and the Irish head, who all never realized how the rum was being made, how the stills were hidden to avoid detection, which is by using the systems of tunnels built under these villas, connecting them, and this is how he gets his own men inside. At first this seems to have a happy ending: he turns the whole thing over to his right-hand man, who now becomes not just a surrogate head of everything but a real head because Affleck gets out altogether and marries and has a son with Saldana, who carries through on her plans to buy property and begin a camp for Cuban refugees and immigrants. But the story does not have a happy ending: after the sheriff's daughter's suicide, the sheriff descends into malaise and madness and shows up in a crazed state on Affleck's front lawn and begins firing into the house with two revolvers. Affleck manages to shoot and kill him, but not before one of the stray bullets claims Saldana's life. Affleck continues the life removed from crime with his son, trying to pass on to him the idea of living in the natural peaceable moment, not focusing even on regrets and atonement, entirely seeking a sort of mystical but saddened peace in the life outside crime. He even gets a glimpse of the real life outside the cycle of crime when he makes his usual Saturday trip to the movies with his son and sees on screen that his brother finally made it as a screenwriter in Hollywood. He even, before Saldana's death, finds that the Irish head's girlfriend survived and now runs an apartment building in Miami, and he goes and sees her, and she disavows the intensity of their "love," saying that it was all mainly fun, and offering hooking up with him again, but only as the fun, not as really meaningful, and he declines and says goodbye, choosing the life of real love and trying to make a positive difference with Saldana. I don't think he wanted to renew an affair with her even if she was misty-eyed about some intensity of their "love" back in Boston. I think he mainly wanted closure whatever the case was ... in part probably a chance to express forgiveness or at least "I bear you no ill will and hope you find peace" kind of thing for the fact that, under duress from the Irish head, she participated in the setup to kill him early on.)

Returning to Elias:
Elias is the same type of character in PoI as Affleck is in Live by Night. He is the monster that the mob created that undoes them, but even in his state of sort of converting to working with Harold, it is unclear how far out from under his ideology he really gets. In the end, he does not (at least entirely) swap his ideology of the fierce loyalty to his own developed family supplanting the mafia (an "ideology" centered in his bond with Anthony and Bruce, his "family" with whom he spent his young years in the orphanage and built the organization that would supplant the rule of the five families ... disowned by the "family" in the same way that Affleck felt disowned, because not able to fit in with, normal America, be it innocent or organized crime). He does not fully swap it for Harold's actual principle of respect for life, but he does come to respect Harold ... even that principle AS a principle to which Harold shows the same type of commitment that he sees himself as having to his own "family" of his "brothers" with whom he went through the rough life of orphanage and revolt.

His commitment is not fully to peace and respect of all life (and some would say not at all), but to Harold, so when he meets that fate we know he does in trying to protect Harold, we are not sure of his level of conversion, but he does represent at least some type of rebellion against a corrupt power structure, even if for his own ends, that then undergoes at least some form of conversion, which makes him similar to Root, to whom we now turn.


Full Ideologies

Root as Ideologist :

What to say about Root? The interpretation below owes much to the friend's wife saying that Root at least started as not just a ruthless killer, but a sadist. While I am going to disagree with that reading, I owe much to it for setting my mind working on this track. I also need to say that the part of that reading with which I disagree is not that she enjoyed killing and causing pain, but rather that her motivations were what we usually call "sadism." And to do so here, I have to explore what I mean by "motivations," which has more to do with specific psychological workings (or rather dysfunctions) than with the usual "desire" connotation we have when speaking of "motivation."

Freud 101
In order to give this full exposition, I have to go into some Freud. I am not an expert on Freud, and I have not spent huge amounts of time on his system apart from a few aspects here and there that connected with my own studies in texts and my own having to cover him under the "masters of suspicion" (Feurbach, Marx, Nietzsche, and Freud) section when I taught "Faith and Critical Reason" (the freshmen level intro to theology course I had to teach a fair bit as a teaching associate for funding in grad school, and actually I didn't cover Freud under the atheism heading, but rather under the section on the interaction of modern psychology with theology). But I did for a while participate in a reading group of Freud's actual works with some fellow grad students. We wound up discontinuing partway through "Beyond the Pleasure Principle," but not before covering the basic id/ego/superego construct and, what is important for here, the concept of cathexis. That last is what I will be using now to examine sadism and the difference between that and radical ideology adherence, and I have to admit that, given my lack of depth in Freud, I will be delving into my own hypotheses that go beyond what I know for sure in Freud. But they will tie out for the present purposes to describe the difference I think there is between Root and standard sadism and, thus, contribute to my comments on why, in this reading of Harold's life-respect as centrally opposed to ideologies, it is important to see Root's commitment to her ideology and not mistake it for "normal" sadism.

Cathexis, for Freud, is basically an investment of psychic/emotional energy in any concept or ideational content that is formed from experience. The best way to explain it is to go ahead and look at a place of "displacement" of cathexis, which is how I am going to describe Root, but just not as the example I will use to do some explanation of the idea. The example that is easiest for me to use is phobia, irrational fear disorders. Let's say I have a phobia of dogs. The path by which I might have developed this phobia is that I was hurt deeply as a child by a trusted family member when there was a dog there barking or growling, or maybe the family member even used the dog to hurt me. The real pain comes from the betrayal and abuse of vulnerability in any form by somebody I looked to as a protector. But this pain is too sharp to examine or even recognize as such head on, so I displace that psychic energy of fear and betrayal and pain into the image of the dog. I don't think about the hurt from the family member because that is too traumatic. Instead I redirect that fear, that psychic energy, into fear of the dangers dogs present. I redirect the fear cathexis into a what becomes a phobia of dogs.

Sadism
As I see it, in my poor attempt at psychoanalysis here, sadism involves two levels of displaced cathexis. The first is to a megalomania focused on personal power, and the second is from there to the ability to cause pain as a manifestation of that personal dynamism. The first, the megalomania, develops from a tendency that we all have, or rather a temptation. When we are hurt, we want to hurt back, but I don't think it is out of what we usually think of as vindictiveness. I think it is out of fear. When we get hurt, it means that we are vulnerable, and when we are vulnerable, we might get hurt again, or we might not be able to protect those we love from getting hurt. And if we can hurt the offender back, it demonstrates to us that we are not so vulnerable, that we can protect ourselves and those we love. This, as I say, I believe to be a universal temptation in non-sociopathic state. I would say "non-disordered" and mean not arising from distinct and diagnoseable mood disorders, but a confusion might arise that I am saying actually hurting back is perfectly fine.

The sadist is the megalomaniac who does not do so out of occasional fear, but rather becomes addicted to causing pain on an ongoing basis as a way to demonstrate personal power. This first displacement is a little bit fuzzier because it is harder to distinguish clearly between the self aggrandizing of megalomania that that, say, a narcissist might have, and the unique way that causing pain demonstrates personal power. But I do think that there is a distinct move from self-aggrandizement to an attachment to causing pain as a manifestation of personal power.

Then the second displacement of cathexis, the clearer one, is from the feeling of power to the experience of another's pain ... from the thrill of causing pain to the thrill of also observing pain (the thrill of causing never goes away though). Firstly, I think any enjoyment of observation of pain takes a distinct step because hearing or seeing someone else in pain is not a natural enjoyment in the way that the taste of food (whether you have a sweet tooth or a savory tooth) or sexual pleasure. It has to be habituated and, I think, begun with a redirection of cathexis from the idea of personal dynamism to the phenomenological experience of seeing another in pain. Think of Voldemort. He loves using the cruciatus curse, the torture curse that causes people to writhe and scream in pain. But at one point (I think in the memory of the Halloween night on which he goes to kill the Potters, but I would have to check on that), we find out that he always hated the crying of the little ones at the orphanage. In the beginnig he was annoyed by the expression of pain; he didn't originally enjoy the experience of witnessing the pain itself (it cut into his world, invaded it, I think, and ticked him off because he could not keep it from doing so).

But I don't think this second cathexis is ever fully made. The megalomania is still there and the strongest motivator. A sadist may initially take pleasure in watching another person cause a third person pain, but I don't think it is intense as when they do it themselves and I think they will always want to hijack the operation, take over it. They may even enjoy the feeling that it is some goading of their own that is dictating the observed sadism, but they will always want to take over at some point and be the one wielding the power hands-on, and who knows, maybe even capitalize on some pain in the original torturer losing their own control of the situation.And here is where we begin to get back into Root, because I think she remains more on the level of enjoying causing the pain or doing the killing, which I think is a mark of keeping closer to a different core than mere personal dynamism, a core of ideological fanaticism.

Root
So, we know from things like watching Root torture Denton Weeks for information in the cabin/house into which she breaks while she has Harold captive and then kill him that she takes pleasure in causing the pain and then killing him. But the question for me is, as I said, what drives it, because I don't think it is the same megalomania. I think it began with the feeling of vulnerability from what happened as a youth with her friend being abducted (and probably molested) and then murdered, with the murder not being able to be discovered. But I don't think that she turned that feeling to a concept of personal dynamism in desire to show herself that she is not vulnerable, from which a sadist then goes into megalomania. I think she redirected the cathexis to something she views as a savior, which is the ideology of the ruthless pursuit of power, a Nietzschean almost philosophical stance of the will to power as a concept, a devotion to its character as supra-moral, as "beyond good and evil," to borrow the title of Nietzsche's book.

And I think that the machine represents to her the pure logic of it because the nature of a thinking machine originally lacks a moral compass altogether. That is the thing she gripes the most about against Harold when she finds out what he did in training the machine, that, having created this evolution beyond human sentimentality, he then crippled it. At this point, I think we have the full-blown AI ideology on the part of Root, developed as a full system of thinking on her part before she meets Harold and put into practice in killing and pain-causing as proof of the fact that the logic of the machine rises above human morality. She calls the machine "god," I think, in the fully medieval philosophical sense of what she sees as the truly "transcendent."

At this point it becomes a matter of enjoying causing pain and killing as a demonstration to herself that the ideology of AI evolution justifies it. I do think it involves having a certain perception of the self, but I don't think it's the same perception of the self as powerful that drives "normal" sadism; I think it is the perception of the self as fully devoted to the ideology and truly living up to it.


Another Literary Example for Explanation:
So, as I did with Elias, I'm going to bring in a character in another work to try to fully explain what I mean here, although this time it will be from Dorothy L. Sayers's first Lord Peter Wimsey novel, Whose Body.

In this first of Sayers's Wimsey novels, a body has turned up in the bath in somebody's house and it cannot even be identified whose body it is (hence the title). Cut to the main action, Wimsey figures out not only whose body it is but who killed it ... and why. And actually the "why" sends Wimsey into a nervous breakdown relapse of his Post-Traumatic-Stress from his WWI service. It was a doctor who did it, but he did it for no "normal" personal motivations. It did not gain him some huge inheritance that he would otherwise not have gotten, and the man had not had an affair with his wife or any other event that would be the immediate cause of a crime of passion (I put emphasis on "immediate" cause because I think the deceased did marry the girl he had been taken with many long years ago, which might serve as the further back of his disorders, similar to Root's issue of the abducted friend, except that Root's really was traumatic but this doctor's should not have been--painful, yes, but not trauma enough to induce sociopathic behavior on its own; that took a commitment to an evil ideology).

The doctor's motivation was to prove his commitment to his ideology, as well as evidence to himself that he has done what his ideology says humanity will all be able to do soon, which is to evolve beyond the state of having a moral conscience, which ephemeral sensitivity (having a conscience) he sees as simply an evolutionary stage from which it was high time we moved on. He kills to demonstrate to himself that he actually does believe this and that it actually is right: if he can do it with not feelings of guilt, it demonstrates that it is possible for humans to evolve out of the conscience stage.

This is what I think Root is, rather than a regular sadist. Her reason for enjoying the killing and causing pain is that it proves her commitment to the ideological belief, and it might prove that she has attained a new level herself, that she is uniquely capable or relating to such an AI because she has demonstrated her assimilation of the "beyond good and evil" principle to the level of hurting and killing with no remorse. At least that is Root as we meet her at the end of season 1.

[ASIDE: Just to give more detail on Wimsey's PTS episode and a little background on Wimsey that hopefully tempts a reader to read Sayers's novels themselves (she's amazing): Wimsey had the relapse after reading a paper written by the doctor (published in some medical journal or other) and drifting off to sleep right after and experiencing night terror flashbacks. Having survived WWI and returned home with PTS but able to get back into this life in a peaceful world and enjoying sleuthing, Wimsey was a symbol for Sayers of England itself after the war: scarred but functioning and getting on with the business of life, having learned from the war and vowing never to let is happen again. Reportedly (I am relying, I think, on the intro written by a contemporary scholar to the novel Gaudy Night), Sayers stopped writing Wimsey after the beginning of WWII; the dream of having made it out of the woods of that type of horror (for both England and Wimsey) was not reality].
 

Root's Initial Sadism with Shaw:
I have to examine here the "sadism" that Root shows with Shaw early on in their relationship. With Shaw it is something different from the ideology thing. Maybe take a little of the low level seepage of the cathexis to the pain of others and diffuse it a little into all things, such that you have a little adaptation to the realm of "romantic" interest in the form of some fetishized "playful pain," as combined with "girl power" time, and maybe even, developing it a little more psychotically, along the model of the statement in Fight Club, "you know that line that you always hurt the ones you love? Well, it works both ways." I don't think any of these is healthy, but I also don't think it is on the level with the ideologically-driven "sadism." All in all, she is a disturbed character when we meet her, but as I said, the producers have openly stated this in stating that they had a plan for some type of redemption/conversion from the time they introduced her at the end of season 1. Part of the reason I don't think that the "sadism" with Shaw is either regular full sadism or ideology sadism is that I think that, when they had those parts written, they probably already had an idea of the homoerotic impulse towards Shaw and that this was a little foretaste of it in the form of the "you always hurt the ones you love and love the ones you hurt" (and for somebody like her, having felt so set-apart, which yields a certain loneliness, her mind may be now sort of predisposed, as it were, to taking that even further, into "if you want to be able to love somebody, you have to be able to hurt them, and you must show that by actually hurting them") ... again, as I say, not all healthy, but also not necessarily textbook sadism.

And as I said above, Shaw's big problem at the end that resulted from plot turns necessitated by Shahi's pregnancy actually could be seen as providing the opportunity for a nuance to develop in Root's character. She still flirts, but it's more on the side and her focus in conversation is solving or processing through the core problem Shaw has since her return from S. Africa. She's actually showing some caring for the person, including processing the "volume turned way down" thing.

Shaw's apparent homosexuality (or rather, bisexuality, as she enjoys watching one male hottie number the one time) is another case, I think. I've always been at least a bit put out with the assumption that all things, with the kiss in season 4 and the steamy scene and the "you were my safe place" in season 5, are naturally straight-up, full-on "normal" female homosexuality (which, "'normal' homosexuality," is, if you agree with Luce Irigaray, a jacked up concept to begin with because it always has an extra "m" in parentheses from male dominance even here) , and if you even ask questions that lead in any other direction, you are homophobe. You have a person who is at least a little sociopathic with the "volume turned way down low" on some things that should have the volume cranked for most people, but one thing that seems to be working is libido, if she is checking out Mr hottie number-in-need in the one episode. And, as far as redirection of cathexis goes, libido it the one thing that is always saying "I'll take whatever you want to toss my way." There are many conceivable displacements of cathexis into a homoerotic or homoromantic drive that do not necessitate epigenetic or organic predisposition to homoerotic impulse (and we know that in our real world it is even possible to redirect positive cathexis into what is initially painful, which is masochism and which we generally view as unhealthy) OR an author necessarily pushing "marriage equality." I'm not making comment on whether theories of epigenetics work as an explanation for the development of homoerotic orientation, I'm just complaining that once there is anything that looks remotely homoerotic on the page, if you say that it's even possible that the author was doing something other than full on apologetics for (in which case you should praise) or apologetics against "marriage equality" (in which case you should criticize), then you're automatically a homophobe (and maybe you have JK Rowling calling you that just short of using the actual word, when you're just a teenager who asked a question ... a question that, incidentally, is pretty much exactly the same basic position stated by a gay-rights activist in Time the week after the original statement, which is "regardless of what you say now that you meant to do or 'always thought of him as," you didn't write him gay on the page ... I love some of the woman's writing [anybody who knows me in person knwos my fanaticism about HP, and you can see that and Fantastic Beast fanaticism in the making on this blodg] and I appreciate very much some of the witty shit she is dealing out on Trumplodytes via twitter these days, but she can be an arrogant bitch at times ... just because somebody has a vagina doesn't mean they can't be a dick ... calling anybody a homophobe, even by implication, these days is like saying they lit the ovens at Aushwitz-Birkenau). I'm not a trained psychologist in the field or even well-studied; in short, I'm no expert, but I think these things are possible as displacements that just happen without being what I will call programatic or ideological homosexuality, or maybe an ideological approach to the homosexuality (which is often most prevalent among the straight "friends and allies" badge-wearing crowd) is the better way to put it. Even Ian McKellen, known for his activism, said he had no problem with not introducing homoeroticism or homosexuality into The Lord of the Rings films because it's simply not there in the original, and we all know how much physical affection there was at times in the trek through Mordor. In short, Shaw's and Roots homosexuality, for one, might be different for each, and two, might not (either of them) be the straight-up "normal" homosexuality so militantly advanced in certain camps ... in fact, it might even cheapen the potential of the character to pigeon-hole it in that way (a way in which, I would argue, Irigaray's precepts as discussed in This Sex Which is not One  would call definitively male-dominant "hom(m)osexuality").


The Root End (WARNING: SPOILERS)

Anyway, back to Root and on to the end.

She converts full-heartedly to whatever distance she does convert (she is not the half-hearted type), but she does not convert all the way to Harold's principle. She converts to being in the family of Harold and therefore consciously chooses to obey the rules of the family. She can sort of see the logic in those rules, but there is a great degree of her actions of compliance that has to be reasoned and deliberative conscious choice, rather than instinct. She's not a particular fan of the big lug, but he is important to Harold and Harold is important to her and so the big lug is important to her. Her commitment is to Harold. In a sense, by the end, it is a sense of trust: she does not see all of how this whole thing of saving human life is better than her old ideology in the sense that she gets it herself, but she does trust Harold's vision of it.

And the feeling of family is central for her. This is basically what she says in one of her last flirting moments with Shaw. When Shaw is noting how FUBAR the situation is, Root notes that this is the first time in her life she has belonged with people, and so there is no place she would rather be.

She is central to the show in the end because she is the ideologist who converts at least to something other than her ideology, to a real personal relationship, even if not  fully to that person's commitment to protecting human life for its own sake. And It is an important thing to note that she is the first full-blown ideologist we meet in the show, the first real representative of what I am arguing is pitted off against Harold's mentality in the central thematic tension of the show as a whole (and we meet her from almost the very beginning, as mysterious orchestrator partway through season 1 and in person at that season).

I think it is the reason it makes sense to have her  become the machine's avatar after she dies. The ideology from which she converts is precisely the AI ideology and the ideology that Harold tried so hard in training the machine to avoid. And I think there is a fittingness to it not happening until Root dies and then it happening right away (I still get chills from the Nine Inch Nails song from how they used it). It's in that last episodes focus on "you don't really see the meaning of somebody's life until you see how they die." Root becomes able to be the machine's avatar the moment she makes a decision to swerve the car so that she takes the bullet meant for Harold.

I know I said this on FB once and I think I copied it into a post here, but it bears repeating even if I did ... that last episode was amazing. I think there is a hat-tip to Wim Wenders films Wings of Desire and Faraway So Close, in which the angels watch over us wearing trenchcoats and ponytails, and cannot directly contact or intervene but can whisper words of encouragement, and it breaks their hearts when one of us commits suicide. Two amazing films by Wenders and an amazing closing episode by Nolan and friends.

Root, Ideology, and Conversions Closer:

There is definitely room to criticize the show and question whether it really pulled these conversion projects off well, rather than leaving moral loose ends possibly having the negative effect of those moral concerns being swept under the rug and minimalized or completely disregarded. But I think it best process to give the show its due first and try to find out whether there is an internally consistent schema to the project that can be shown to be really present and clear and then ask those critical questions of execution and what may or may not be done in addition in the execution as a result of sloppiness or giving in to going for cheap thrills. I'm arguing that I think there is such a schema and that I think that it is Harold's concern for human life pitted off against the AI ideology (both in Root and in Greer) and the conversions that happen along with it. And for this section on Root, I am saying that I think that it works best if Root's conversion is from an ideologist to a committed family member (even if not to a full humanitarian like Finch, although I think she can see some of the logic of how being humanitarian leads him to things like the compassion he showed her).

There is also room to ask the question whether or not I am accepting pictures that are only lims and then filling in the colors myself, eisogeting things and then claiming that they are there in the original and that this is why the original is great, as I claimed against fans of Mad Max: Fury Road in my post comparing it with Logan.Of course, as this is a TV show, it also has to be admitted that, simply because of the format and mode of presentation to an audience (even just the fact of having the presentation broken up by commercials, which makes stock character types easier to use because it's easier to jump back in on them after having had one's mind diverted by Home Depot and Ford), there is more filling in the colors yourself involved by nature of the medium.

Greer as Ideologist and Unconvertable

Greer as in ideologist is a little too straightforward to really need to be explained much. I mean, the guy kills himself by lack of oxygen to prove an ideological point. The "an AI must rule us" ideology doesn't get much more blatant than that. What I would like to focus on briefly is the difference between him and Root. Why does Root end up having some kind of conversion and we are rooting  for her (sorry, just couldn't resist, but I promise I won't make any jokes about babies and breasts ... except for that one :), and more importantly, we don't find it impossible that she had some conversion, but we know Greer would never convert and we just want him dead so he can't do any more damage?

Quite simply, Greer comes from more money and resources and his predilection for ideology comes from his involvement with it on a much larger scale ... he was MI6 (with all its service to the "Free West" and all that ... cf my post on le Carre on that one). Root is somebody who turned to ideology as a savior, but what we see in the episode that gives Greer's MI6 background is that he is the monster that ideology itself made. So it is much more deeply ingrained. And the more money and resources means that, if ideology is a drug, he's been able to afford a lot more product and a lot bigger syringes than Root has for a long time, so he's a lot more hooked ... he's not coming back.


AI and Ideology:

I touched on this already in discussing Root, so I just want to reiterate it hear and make sure I have drawn it clearly because it is basically what I am claiming as the core theme of the whole five-season show: the tension between ideologies and concern for human life for its own sake, meaning each individual life.

What I said in the section on Root is that she sees an ideology of "life is just numbers because life is just business, and we are beyond good and evil" as a savior for her from pain in the past, and she sees an AI as the ultimate potential for that ideology. I'm going to say here (which I think I hinted at up there but not sure) that an AI is a very apt medium through which to discuss the tension between ideologies and something like Harold's humanitarianism. An AI is the perfect place to discuss ideologies because ideologies are about tying up ironclad logics, and a computer is nothing but pure logic. That's how I think the heavy tension we get concerning the AIs by the end meshes with the humanitarian bent for which many of us fell in love with the show back in season 1 (those awesome little mini-movies with so many creative layers). And it's how Root fits into that original humanitarian theme and becomes apt for being the machine's final avatar.

ADDENDUM 04/15/2017

I've been mulling over the difference between ideology and religion. Basically I think that the key difference is ideology being all immanent logic and religion being about a transcendent source. And it's main point in regard to the Person of Interest is ethics, which is also a big one for religion (although not the only one: I used to us Stephen J Gould's Rocks of Ages as a foil for one section in a class on intro to religious studies and say that, while I respect his making some attempt at a relation and I agree with some methodological autonomy, I think that he reduces, and has to reduce, religion to ethics in order to do his NOMA [non overlapping magisteria] project, and that gets it wrong).

In ideology, the ethics is all determined by the immanent logic, what the logical brain (be it human or AI) can figure out in making this system ironclad and all pervasive logic centered around and flowing out of the one central point. For instance, let's take the ideology of Marxism: Marx was about class struggle; he said the world of humanity is simply the social world of humanity, the relations between humans, not between humans and some being above called God, AND not between humans and some thing below called nature or the environment; the environment has no intrinsic value; if saving the trees helps the proletariat overcome the upper class, then save away; but if burning all the trees on the earth would HELP the proletariat, then light up the flamethrowers ... many undergrads in America would be shocked and in a state of denial to find out that Marx didn't give a rat's ass about the environment for it's own sake).

Religion is about the idea of the transcendent, and it's morality comes from "above." I'm going to leave that in quote. I'm a Catholic; I believe in God; I believe in Christ and his death and resurrection and ascension; I believe in the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church ... basically all of the Nicene Creed and the authority of the magisterium of the Catholic Church. But I'm not doing apologetics here. I'm doing an analysis of this particular piece of narrative fiction, and the main point here is that religion sees itself as having its ultimate source in some transcendent.

Now, I'm not saying that Harold is some aspect of humanity that makes us basically able to be as gods, and especially not that when we talk about God, we're only talking about some aspect of humanity that we need to own and grow up and evolve past religion and admit that all the time we were talking about God we were really talking about us but we were too young to handle that truth, like Ludwig Feuerbach. But there is something in the fact that, as the maker of the machine, Harold is in an "above" position and that it is important that, all along, he has worked to input, from "above," into the machine something that is a logic unto itself and beholden to no other logic, the principle of the intrinsic value of all human life, each and every one. I have always thought that, in good AI sci-fi, AI is always some aspect of humanity to be examined by supersizing it, usually some intellectual capacity (although sometimes the connection takes a contrast method on the page, like Asimov's portrayal of speech as an evolution in robotic intelligence in I Robot but as a devolution for humans in Second Foundation). And in that schema, Harold does become the analog of the god "above" position, and actually putting in a principle that the real God above actually gives, which is the intrinsic value of each and every human life.

My interest is with the structure of religion (Harold in "god" position, or to borrow that brilliant use of gaming trope for the finale of season 2 episode title, "god mode") in relation to ideology (the machine's AI ability for complete and total immanent logic) and the event of the god mode character inputting a principle into the ideology from "above." Which I think is the story of Harold's relation with the machine across the whole show. And as we saw very early on, it work; the machine seems to have this core principle, one which Root sees as having been a crippling of the machine. And there is maybe the most core arc of the show: an ideologist who is the most apt avatar for the machine in the end converts.

This gets dicey because it starts to sound a bit like allegory and I am especially wary of making a modern TV show into an allegory of something as sacred as Christ ... and I share Tolkien's general view of allegory. But the general principles hold and are there in the show. Root converts to Harold: she stops killing and starts at least being an ally of the team, if not directly involved in the saving lives project, out of an attachment to Harold; she saves John a few times because John is important to Harold; and at the end she says she feels like she has a family now and wouldn't rather be any other place, even though they are under heavy fire and the world is about to end. And, if you look at Christianity, is has always insisted that it is not about a system or even one single principle, which is an element of thought (it still has to be put in propositional form and proposition is language and language is thought), but about a relationship with a person (Jesus Christ). It would have been more ideal from a moral standpoint had Root converted to the point of being able to believe in and apply the principle herself, but not necessarily more realistic (and, given that her drug of choice, of which she was a HUGE addict, was radicalized logic, too quick conversion to a mental proposition, even one as good as every human life having value, risks relapse). I'm not a complete skeptic on actual logic, but I do think that it has to be admitted that we are more people-based than we like to admit: we mimic our parents and other people who are the bedrock of our world when we are young; yes, we can go beyond and engage in actual logic; but those original ties are very primal, and the tendency is to convert to persons long before we convert to ideas. In short, we have to admit (and this is VERY much harder for religious people to admit than they like to admit) that psychology exists.

I would offer one final analogy for Root's "conversion to Harold" rather than a full conversion to his principle, and that is the conversion of Mark Studdock in C. S. Lewis's That Hideous Strength. This happens towards the end of the novel when Mark is now fully captive in Belbury and being treated as an initiate in training for the evil N.I.C.E institute, being trained by Frost in the "objective room." When he comes to his conviction to resist the training, Lewis's language is fairly clear that he is not yet making a full turn to the beliefs of the Dimbles and the Dennistons, the faith of the Church, but rather to everything good in the world that Jane seemed to symbolize to him. He accepted people like them because she accepted them. Hopefully on the way to some fuller conversion to truth and goodness (as Lewis seems to portray it, or at least leaves the possibility distinctly open in a hopeful way), Mark is first (and it's all we get for the present aside from that possible sense of hope) sort of "converting to Jane." And this is how I see Root as "converting to Harold" (accepting the value of John because he does etc).

Saturday, March 18, 2017

Logan (2017 film) versus Mad Max: Fury Road (2015 film)

Intro:

Ok, here we go with a post that is for a just-out movie that I flipped over AND one that might drag some hits and readership in from google search hits (I know I've always said that I am just putting stuff up on this blog as a place to record it, to "jot it down and write it up" so I don't forget it ... but ... let's face it, we all like knowing somebody out there is reading our idea  ... even if they do scurry off after a few seconds of "this guy's a little touched"). I'll just say in advance, to any who are already used to some of the jargon, sorry if I over-explain it in places; some might be interested in reading who are not, and I think those of us who are forget how much of a "little black box" language can be and the days of frustratingly wondering what somebody meant by some term they kept using.

Aside: Case in point, I should explain "little black box," because I just googled to make sure that if anybody didn't know it, it was findable on the internet, and I got a lingerie site as the top hit ... I don't know if the term predates Michael Behe's book or if he coined it himself, but he uses it for Darwin's theory on the cell, which he calls "Darwin's little black box" because we couldn't see inside it at the time, and so Darwin said "listen once we can seen inside the cell, it will all be clear, you will see that I have been right all along," and he said this because it was nowhere near demonstrable that he was right at the time when we couldn't see inside the cell (I'm not arguing that he's been proven right now that we can; in fact, from what I understand from the guy I knew who was a bio major who was talking bout it one night, Behe's book argues that seeing inside the cell has decidedly not proven Darwin right), so the issue was opaque, and the place where the answers could be found was opaque, a little black box, but supposedly once we got inside, the answer would be clear as day ... as for my using it for language, once we "get" what a certain term means and how it is used, it seems completely natural to us, but before that, the uses are just confusing because the meaning is completely opaque to us, a little black box that, like Darwin's, once we get inside, all this mumbo jumbo this person is speaking will make sense (this is especially true when they are adaptable terms like "scape" that you can suffix onto lots of things).

OK, NOW FOR THE ATCUAL CONTENT ALREADY:
The current movie is, of course, Logan, and I am also exploring a comparison with a recent movie, Mad Max: Fury Road.

My baseline position is: I liked Logan a lot (three viewings so far as of last night, the last night it was in the one-screener in my small town, that may last me til DVD, but I also might have to go see it again in the second-run a half-hour west of here), and I found Mad Max: Fury Road to be pretty much useless. I wanted to get that out of the way just to have my cards on the table. There will be a fair bit of exposition of that below, but not necessarily in an orderly fashion because of what I will describe in a moment as my focused concern. But right off the bat and before I get to real content, just to address any charges against myself as contrarian, I will say this in my own defense: I went in wanting to like Fury Road. While Beyond Thunderdome was a bit over the top, I still love Road Warrior as a classic of the genre (and the original Mad Max too, although it is a bit of an adjustment for the current viewing mind, as it is a distinctly 1970s horror style, with all the screechy strings and all ... once, when I had to work with a friend and do a 5 min scene in a Shakespeare class in undergrad, I pieced together the whole Oberon and Puck subplot from Midsummer Night's Dream and thought about trying to do it in the style of Toe-cutter and Johnny, but I figured even fewer people would get that than would have gotten my first plan, which was in the style of Kramden and Norton of the Honeymooner's, which I gave up on when my friend just gave a blank stare to "you know, Jackie Gleason and Art Carney, the Honeymooners, bang zoom, to the moon Alice?" ... I felt very old, and I was only in my mid twenties ... actually my first plan was a scene from Taming of the Shrew with him as Petruchio and myself, with my long beard at the time, as Kate, but the starry-eyed prude of a prof [whom I have mentioned in other posts, especially the one on Tolkien versus Shakespeare] nixed that ... for as little as I think of WS on some fronts, he would would have loved that).
And I like Hardy as an actor (particularly in Inception, Warrior, and Dark Knight Rises). So... I went in wanting to like Fury Road, but it left me flat at best. AND I have given it more of a chance than just one viewing in the theater. I netflixed it and watched it again not long ago to give it a chance because one guy and his son and another friend's son were all excited about it

ANYWAY, My point in THIS post, however, is not necessarily to make convincing arguments for and against (although I obviously do hope that a reader will find any arguments I wind up making along the way convincing), but rather to explore whether or not I have the basis for a comparison that I tossed up on Facebook after the second watching of Logan: That I think [main thesis:] Logan does what Fury Road (as well as all the fanboy critics) wishes and thinks it did but it didn't.  Since the set ups (global/time setting, social structures present etc), of the two films are fairly different, I thought I should do a thought experiment of trying to justify comparing one against the other at all to be able to claim that I am not comparing apples to oranges.

This will naturally include some details from Logan that I like and and thought Fury Road failed on, , but it's not my primary focus (believe it or not, it honestly isn't, which you will find hard to believe by the end, or I should say that there IS a part of me that is, for its own sake, apart from my preoccupation of "I'm allowed to have not creamed my pants over Fury Road" (albeit alongside that preoccupation) interested in the question, for it's own sake, as I say, of "hmmmm, is that comparing apples to apples rather than apples to oranges, and what criteria would you use to determine if they are enough in the same genre of movie to justify comparing their performances? This is a most interesting question") . At the end, I'll close out with some of the stuff I loved in Logan.


Post-Apocalyptic versus Western 

So, Fury Road is usually classified as a post-apocalyptic film, and Logan is not. But, to me, that genre classification doesn't really count for too much because, for me, a post-apocalyptic film has to go somewhere in order for genre to be a relevant factor, and I don't think Fury Road does. A contrasting example would be Book of Eli's issue of "where do we go from here." In that film, the options are a local warlord type, Carnegie (Gary Oldman), misusing the power of religious language and ideas to motivate, on the one hand, and the Alcatraz plan of collecting the great works that bear witness to the history and trying to rebuild some kind of civilized culture, on the other hand ... and Eli is searching for some type of "where do we go from here" thing like that after the apocalypse ... Max in Fury Road, on the other hand, is eating lizards in the desert (I'd even be tempted say that that could be some sort of John the Baptist eating locust in the wilderness, except that the movie never goes anywhere paying off on anything like that). Or take another post-apocalypse, 12 Monkeys by Terry Gilliam (one of his only two really great films in my opinion, the two where he really hit his stride and nailed something well, the other being his film before it, Fisher King): the question after the apocalypse, and the reason for the whole time traveling experience, is how we get back to the surface.

Even take the apocalyptic lead-up and transfer in the original six-book Dune series (to speak of a more true apocalypse set in a desert world): After the death of Leto II, God-Emperor of Dune (who is the culmination of the Kwisatz Haderach experiment line by the Bene Geneserit), all the different elements like his fish-speaker female bodyguards and the others who fled out into the diaspora come back to the core after having coalesced and evolved into the ruthless "honored matres," and the big question is not just who will will be in control, honored matres or Bene Gesserit, but how it will happen and what model will get there now that the control of god-emperor is gone, and it is the evolutionary assimilate-and-adapt method of the Bene Gesserit that wins by assuming the honored mater strand into themselves in the person of  Murbella ... that is the answer to the "where do we go from here?" question that defines post apocalypse (and as regards the Dune diaspora and return plot, make no mistake, for the REAL concepts of apocalypse and post-apocalypse in the real history of the ideas, diaspora plays a great role ... it was the first diaspora, the Babylonian Exile in 587 BC/BCE, that began the earliest apocalyptic thinking, the apocalyptic stage of Judaism, the answer of "next world" to the question of "how do you reconcile the promises of God regarding the Tempe and the dynasty when this other country just blew both to hell?" the second diaspora after the even more definitive "blow it to hell and beyond" by the Romans in 70 AD/CE finished the job for good, that's why you have stuff like 1 Enoch being locked down into a more final canonical shape around 100 AD/CE... and interestingly, I think the name "kwisatz Haderach" in Dune is probably based somehow on the Kefitzat Haderach of Kabbalah, Jewish mysticism, and its direct descendant, Hasidic Judaism, in which it is the ability to travel from place to place at miraculous speeds and possibly bilocate, which is used in Chaim Potok's The Gift of Asher Lev, in the mysterious way in which Asher is visited by the Rebbe).

Fury Road simply does not seem to me like it pays off in the "where do we go from here" department. It can be implied by the fact that the person who won was the woman who was taking the girls away from big Joe and his male-heir-factory mentality that they're not going to have any of that any more, but it doesn't really give you any idea beyond that.

So, long and short, I don't think Fury Road pays off as a true post apocalypse. But I do think that it fits another genre that is definitely on the page with Logan.

Logan has been characterized by Jackman, when talking about concrete discussions with Mangold going into the making, as a western, and it is very open about this: Mangold was the one who decided on using Shane actually in the film (and I think it was well done ... the performance of the lines by the girl at the end was amazing). I think that, for all the hype as a post-apocalypse and drooling over the landscape, Fury Road has more of a western-genre set up, even to the extent that I would say that it is basically a western and nowhere near a real post-apocalyptic (people confuse theses kinds of things all the time, for instance: In addition to being more true post-apocalyptic, Dune was a true sci-fi, but what made it so was not techno-babble or off-world technology, not even the elements of folding space through spice prescience, but rather questions of realized genetic engineering and bio-medical ethical questions and prejudices concerning things like the Bene Tleilaxu axlotl tanks for growing gholas, and I swear I remember reading that in one of the later books of the original six-book series that they're pretty much modified living female bodies, even though the wiki on axlotl tanks has nothing on it ... and I actually think there may have been a hat-tip in Logan to that in Dune, if there is anything to my fuzzy memory about the human females as ghola-gestation ,when the nurse Gabriella describes the children being bred in the bellies of Mexican girls who were never seen or heard from again. I'm not sure how strong my evidence is on that, but it's a possibility, and a nice sci-fi hat tip if it is).

Anyway, my working thesis is that I am justified in making a comparison between the two films as westerns, and I am now going to examine the elements that I think they share in common along these lines as further justifying comparing them at all in the first place.


Specific Elements

So, the elements I see in common between the two films with a particular emphasis on how they fit the western genre. First, although this is more of a peripheral thing, there is simply the arid desert setting. Actually, for being in the "post apocalypse" genre, Fury Road is even closer to traditional westerns staging in this regard than Logan, since you have the battles in the passes and the equivalent of the "Indians" attacking from the high ground etc. Logan has its desert action drama characteristics too; they're just not as stereo-typically western. I'll just say, on this element, that I think the chase scenes in Logan were every bit as well done as they were in Fury Road in the aspects that really matter as far as the "will they get away?" and close scrapes (I liked the "don't get caught watching the paint dry" style whip it around the front of the train) ... what Logan didn't have, and what I will say Fury Road uses as a poor substitution (but one that everybody wets themselves over for some reason), is an overload of clever contraptions, which I think Fury Road, as I say, uses to distract from the fact that it's really not all that original in its chase choreography (if you want to see an example of a cleverly choreographed interesting chase scene, watch the "follow me Tonto" scene in Way of the Gun ... the "move ... moving" scene is pretty good too). In Fury Road you have the polecats and the guys who shoot hooks that drag into the back of the tanker and so many others you can't keep track of them (but the girls who have assumedly been kept in breeding most of their lives seem to know what they are and be able to rattle off the catalog so that excitable aficionados can wet themselves over the excitement immediately forthcoming) ... and that's really about it ... varied gimmicks in place of actual choreography.

I will also add this here, on the theme of the million and one contraptions on Fury Road ... why? I don't mean from the current viewing setting, in which the why is that it sells. I mean in the context of the story. Bullet Farm and Gas Town and Joe's water hoard all work together and out in the desert you have pretty much a handful of rat-people. All this spray painting the teeth with chrome and "witness me" ... witness you fight whom? All the people worth witnessing you fight are your allies.

But, really, the elements that define the western are more on the character and society levels. The society is the looseness of law and law-unto-themselves characteristics. This sort of crosses over with post-apocalyptic, in which the apocalypse event has collapsed the structures of law enforcement on all levels including the international. But you have it in all westerns in which it is necessary for a lone gunman or a small crew of gunmen to fight for justice and the protection of the vulnerable because law and order (whether sheriffs or marshalls) have little or no control of the situation (much different from the modern movie FBI/ATF/DEA/SWAT brigades around every corner). Joe's waterhole and Bullet Farm and Gas Town may be said to actually be the government of their time in Fury Road, but they're not exactly what you would call civilized government ... the main thing being the lack of any sort of concept of due process. Likewise, the scientist and the mercs in Logan are not controlled by any jurisdictional law-and-order entities and obey no concept of due process.

The main thing the two films share as westerns, though, is the conversion of the originally amoral character, although in Fury Road I think it is more an alleged conversion. It's not that I think Max was evil and he didn't turn to some evil ways in the end. He just didn't go much place else. He just kind of slips out the door at the end with this sort of over-used world-weary but somehow at peace or something half smile, like "I learned some things ... well, not really ... mainly I got my shit back ... but I did feel kind of guilty, so I helped, and that sort of counts as some conversion, right?" Beyond that, you mainly have him going "that's my car! That's my jacket!" for the first half of the film. I guess you could say he stuck it out through going finding the lost female tribe, but up til he has one of the dirt bikes, leaving really isn't an option ... Joe's people are going to find him and probably torture him before they kill him because he really can't get even far enough away to avoid notice while he is on foot. And even if he could avoid detection, he dies in the desert from exposure ... might as well stick it out with the girls. The turning around once he has a bike is really the first of any conversion that I see ... and I don't think it's really connected in the film. All the time when they could have been doing character, the film was busy overdosing on  pyrotechnics, and then this conversion sort of pops out of nowhere, and I think that the main reason that it "works" for so many is that it is what they expect. They're given the broad outlines and they fill in the color themselves, rather than the film actually filling it in, and they do it while calling the film great because they wanted to see it as great in the first place. I just don't see the big conversion.

Some will say that the kid, Nux, is the real conversion, but he starts on that mainly because, as he says, Joe already saw his bloodbag driving the rig so he'll be killed anyway. And then he has kind of the young love interest, and I'll be the first to say that we should not snub the deeper conversion embedded in romance as showing deeper conversion to be what actually make romance possible, but it's a very truncated version here, if at all (again, most of the time it could have used to develop is hogged up by pyrotechnics) ... and then the kid is dead. If you're going to do a sacrificial death, at least give the element enough build-up time so that the sacrifice actually means something, so that the audience has enough picture of character to feel what is being sacrificed in the fact that that character will no longer be able to go along certain development paths (again, the trick on which the film relies is getting the eager audience to fill in those lines themselves, rather than doing the work).

Logan has a lot more to him, and I don't mean just what is brought in from the previous films, and actually there is very little of that. Mostly there is this the "Westchester incident," which is really described only in Logan. And that is really a piece-it backwards thing anyway (they keep mentioning it and you keep going "what Westchester thing" and then you're given enough through seizure events and comments to have the basics: he had  a seizure there that killed mutants in the school and wounded many others). Even the guilt that drives him to care for Charles, the feeling that he owes him for saving him from a career as a cage fighter, while we know that story from other films, it is explained within this one when Charles is saying what a disappointment he is, described in such a way that we don't really need to have seen the other films to get the basic idea. But you have to read til further below to get the parts I think are the more to Logan. For her, my main contention is that the redemption of the amoral character is a clear trope of the western that is shared by the film and, therefore, a further justification for comparing them, but I will say for here that my would argue that Logan clearly does it better.

Then there are the people saved by the amoral character, which act of saving drives the conversion. A more traditional western with this would be the group of prostitutes in Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven, the ones offering the money for any who will avenge the girl who was cut up by the cowboy. In Fury Road it is the girls whom Joe has been using as a breeding farm, and in Logan it is the mutant kids. In both films, you have a place to which they try to escape (Fury Road is not a "take our town back" western until much later in the film). The films even share an older female character who initiates the escape before enlisting the help of the reluctant amoral character who is redeemed by the end: Gabriella the nurse in Logan and Furiosa in Fury Road.

So, all in all, I think I am justified in comparing Logan and Mad Max: Fury Road against each other (or with each other, if I liked both, etc, but the point being to say that they have likenesses that make examining them together and in comparison with each other over-all fruitful).


SIDE NOTE: Interesting tidbit though: I just checked to make sure that the name is Joe and see if I recognized the actor ... he was actually Toe-cutter in the original 1979 film, Mr "Johnny ... light me" when they burn Goose alive ... maybe he survived getting run over in the first film? More likely just an inter-movie allusion for the nerds like me.


Main project: The Scape

Having done all that up there, and before going on to things I really liked in Logan (and probably pitting off what I thought were less than stellar executions of the same kind of thing in Fury Road here and there along the way), I want to touch on the idea of "scapes" because I think it is a lot of the mechanics of Fury Road especially. "Scape" is a meme that gets a lot of mileage in contemporary literary studies. I would describe the idea by noting that the word presently comes from the fact that we have adapted the word "landscape" into other realms like "dreamscape" and "cityscape" (just saw a book in a toy store this morning that was something about cityscapes) and so the "land" idea of a "topography" goes with it. In a landscape, even the most limited in scope, you have raised up areas and even areas and depressed areas (or meaningful lack of them). There different areas with different qualities and movement between them is possible within the same landscape ... and most especially, from the artistic point of view, the eye always does move between them, and the artist usually wants it to do so in a particular way without letting the eye know that that is what it is doing. But the main thing is that there are defining elements in scapes and they can be done differently by different people: if tall buildings are part of a cityscape, Manhattan still has a very different cityscape from LA.

For instance, for me, a central thing in a cityscape really having substance is rivers and bridges. It's why, when I lived in Cleveland for a year, I had difficulty taking it seriously as a city (rather than just an urban area; I once put it that Cleveland was urban without ever reaching the level of urbane): no real river bridges. All the classic cities in Europe are built on rivers. The "first city" (NYC) and "second city" of the US have them heavily (I've ridden all 17 bridges on and off Manhattan Island, including the two bike/ped only,  plus the Pulaski between Queens and Brooklyn and the Marine Parkway [Flatbush Ave] from Brooklyn to Far Rockaway/Queens and the Verrazano from Brooklyn to Staten Island). Some people would say that Cleveland fits a cityscape because it has a few tall buildings ... I tend to disagree. My main point in all this verbiage, though, is the idea of different kinds of scapes and the possibility of defining them in different ways, by different elements (defining cityscape by tall buildings or rivers and bridges, and then the difference between the tall buildings view of LA vs NYC or the difference between the feel of London Bridge over the Thames and Brooklyn Bridge over the East River, and the difference between both and the series of bridges over the river in Chicago or the series of bridges up the much wider Allegheny in Pittsburgh).

Keeping with the city-scape idea and to give a little more idea of "scaping" before talking about it in these two films briefly, I just edited a book with an essay in it that drew on a work by French twentieth-century philosopher/literary theorists/social activist  Jacques Elul on cityscapes, in which work he talked about actually constructing cityscapes with what he called something like "not space," by which he meant in-between spaces, not officially in one "area" or another, such as a suburban area that can't be pinned down and is really sort of a no-man's-land between the center and the periphery. It's Paris, but you can't pin it down to any part in the center or in the suburbs, and it doesn't look entirely center of city or suburb in general; it has qualities of both.

Basically, you can discuss just about anything as a scape if you can demonstrate that it makes a sort of "topography" of sorts with different "areas" that have both marked differences and demonstrable interaction (even if the interaction is a distinct non-interaction that sticks out because both have interaction with a third party).

SO, for Fury Road, I want to talk about "landscape," "socio-scape," and "character-scape." My basic contention about Fury Road is that it has no real character-scape and masks that by a heavy use of landscape and socio-scape.

One of the things the film is noted for is it's impressive landscape, and I already discussed a lit bit of that above for the landscape quality in westerns ("Indian" attacks in the mountain passes in the desert kind of thing). I'll admit, there is texture to the scenery and the feel, and I am sure that there is a whole lot that is going on as far as technique in shooting that is contributing to that, and all of that has a value in its own right. But I don't think that it can replace more core elements.  A film is more than simply principle photography or landscape. It has a plot and, most importantly, it has characters and character developmen. I think that one of the main things Fury Road gets away with is substituting landscape for character-scape.

It's part of the western genre that it has limited engagement with a larger socio-scape. In Logan, there is none of the usual involvement with larger world affairs as there usually is in XMen/Marvel: no fighting in a series of wars for the US, no Professor X talking to a scared US president, no Cuban Missile Crisis, no Magneto dropping a whole stadium on the white house lawn, not even any big Japanese money and Yakuza. If I would say Logan has a social-scape, I would call it a "nomad-scape."Below I mention Gen 4:12 in passing, Cain sentenced to nomadic exile, and I think many would claim that this is what Max is, the wanderer, but I think really that Fury Road is less of a nomad thing and more of just a run-around-loony-scape and then a make-animal-noises-when-captured-scape. In reality, transiency always has some connections. Squatting on corporation deadland just south of a porous but heated border while doing pick up work (literally, picking up passengers on a moment's notice when texted by dispatch ... and figuratively as the broader description for having your own leased vehicle and hiring it and yourself out) north of the border is a lot more like actual nomadism.
For Fury Road, as I noted above, bullet farm and gas town and Joe's diner might be said to be the sort of government but without the due process. The more important thing for here, though, is that they seem to be this all-encompassing geopolitical landscape with its own mysterious social order, or socio-scape. But it's never anything that you really discover much about. I suppose that, if you read the comic books or graphic novels or whatever, you get some of it filled in, but I'm a believer in films being standalone narratives. It's one thing if, in reading the graphic novel, I get MORE out of the story, or maybe a slightly altered story in which the alterations are interesting, but if I have to read them to get anything, then it's the same as the whole thing of giving just broad outlines and the viewer having to fill in the colors for you but then you also get the fame of being so great with colors. For example, I got more out of reading Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy, and it wasn't not worth reading because I already knew who the mole was from watching the miniseries, BUT it also was not necessary to have read it in order to know what was going on in the miniseries.

If the details of the socio-scape didn't matter at all in Fury Road, that would be one thing. But they do matter, I think in part because that scape is what is claimed to fill in for actual character-scape. It definitely plays into what is supposed to be the driving motivational core. We really don't care about Max having to eat lizards; what we do care about is that he has this conversion in which he helps Furiosa and the girls because he sees how unjust this breeding system is with Joe's young "wives," and that draws the viewer into the questions. But the questions are so caricatured and weary-troped and basically just all over the place (who the fuck is the midget and where is he in the "sons" rank, who do the war boys do war with) that you have to fill in the colors yourself and all you really get in place of character development is the titillation of morbid curiosity: "oh my, he's full on breeding them as slave "wife" baby mamas" and "oh my, they're milking the chubby girls continuously right out in front of everyone and they carry mothers milk along with them ... kinky" and at most (although, if we're honest, this is the main idol/drug of choice for us all) "yes, well, I'm sophisticated because I don't get phased by all this stuff that makes other people blush."

It might not be so bad if we actually got some characterization, and Theron is probably the best out of the three, but I can sum them all up in a few lines:

Max: "My car!" "My jacket!" "Get this thing off my face!" "They're trying to kill me and you're not, so I'll go with you." "There's nothing in that direction, you might as well go back and try to take over the camp." "I'll just slip out the side door here and wait for the sequel."

Nux: "WOOOHOOOOO! I'm sickly but I'm hopped up!" "Oh shit! he saw my bloodbag driving the rig and I dropped the gun, so I can't go back there, better find some motivation to be in this camp; hey, she's hot and she's nice enough to talk to me; oh shit, well at least she sees me die like a hero."

Furiosa: "We're leaving!" "You double-crossing assholes!" "Hey, your a man, I'm going to shoot you and not bother asking questions later." "I rigged those switches myself so only I can start them." "HI !!! I USED TO BE FROM THIS TRIBE!!!!" "We could use your help but we won't stop you from going because you have genuinely helped us and we genuinely appreciate it and you've earned us giving you one of the bikes and some supplies so you have a chance of making it" (that's the part that I mentioned where you get more out of Furiosa than the others). "WOOHOOO! let's kick some ass! ... remember me motherfucker?!?!?!?!"

Oh yes, lest I forget ... the other thing that Fury Road has (and the all the fanboys really  wet themselves silly over) and that it tries to substitute for character-scape more than any other is what I call "psycho-scape." I don't mean a real psychological landscape. I have noted in conversations with friends before things like that on Charles Williams's War in Heaven is an easier read for many because it has a much more physical landscape, whereas his Descent Into Hell has a much more psychological landscape ... that isn't what I am talking about here. I'm talking about a topography of psychotic "people" being substituted for a topography of actual characters. You have big Joe with his young girls in chastity belts and his fat girls with their boobs hooked up for milking, and he has his little (bastard child? who knows? ) midget with the spy glass, you have Joe's muscle-troll son Rictus (with his desire to have a baby brother?), you have one of the other leaders with his big swollen feet, and then yet another blasting away with his machine guns from the car after he is blinded.

The "gore-scape" is also closely related to the whole weird face thing that everybody goes gaga for: Joe's facemask and all the ghoulish howling faces in all the fight scenes, the other leader I just mentioned with big swollen feet of one of the other leaders (sorry, Vladimir Harkonnen was a much better attempt at the nauseatingly obese and disgusting trope), that sort of thing.

SIDE NOTE: This might be the easiest place to mention one of the only places I though Fury Road had something interesting to say. It's a limited one, but still, best to say something nice if one can. The traveling guitar player was interesting. I mean, of course, as a male in the contemporary era, there is the "whoa ... that was wicked cool" factor, but I mean a little more than that. It's a good image of how we all carry around our own soundtrack with us because we are all always carrying around our own little screenplay narrative in our heads of what we are doing.


Two Final Things about Fury Road
(before positives of Logan)

So, I know I said this was mainly examining the basis for doing the comparison, and not even a full defense of Logan, let alone an attempt to fully shred Fury Road, but it's also, as is this blog for me, a catch-all place, a place where I collect the ideas so that I won't forget them, and there are two more thoughts that have come to me in my thoughts on critique of Fury Road after conversations on it, so this is as good a place as any to record them.

1. Classic form is not enough 
This may be rehash of my post on "chiastic bodies," but it never hurts to write things more times than once, if for no other reason than being able to go back and look at them side by side and say "well ... those two don't make sense together" so that you can further hash out what you're getting at (as one mentor used to say, "we write to think").

So, one of the people excited to defend Fury Road as the greatest thing since spice racks was going on about it being a hero's journey. I haven't studied Jung's hero journey thoroughly in it's contents, so I asked the kid what elements in Max were the hero journey and he said it was actually a mix of the three characters of Max, Furiosa, and the Nux, which all sounded like it got a bit wobbly to me, kind of like a legos projects that uses too may of the smallest kind, the single layer with only two nubs, but, as I say, hero journey never was a speciality of mine and I'm definitely not fresh on it now ... I know the shadow is involved and the shadow is a doppleganger/the unconscious/everbody-debates-what-it-is-in-comparison-to-Freud's-unconscious, but the details are a bit hazy (but that was one of those "bite your tongue" moments in the conversation: The kid had not mentioned Jung by name and then there was something else I said and I mentioned Jung's name in some context, and the kids says,"yeah, that's who it was, Jung, I wasn't sure if you would have heard of him" ... felt like saying "you go look up 'M. Phil.' and come back and tell me what it is, and then I'll show you the one I have with my name on it in an ancient texts field and THEN I'll tell you whether or not I've heard of Carl fucking Jung and you can tell me what you think of his analogy between dreaming on the individual level and mythology on the level of the world soul or why he might have named a major work Psychology and Alchemy" ... but I didn't ... I was nice ... I was a good boy).

But, in all seriousness and all cranky-pants aside, here is my real response to that claim. A classic structure like that alone is not enough; it has to be executed well, and that means in the context of good character development. I'll use an example from my own set of avid interests. John Granger has done a lot of work on ring compositions, and while he once credited me as breaking the ground on applying the general principle, chiasm, to Harry Potter, he is much more widely studied in ring composition than am I, and much more insightful ... much more. I am friend with him and respect his scholarship as well, well beyond my own (and he's also a much better human being than I will probably ever be). And  he is reading ring elements in Rowling/Galbraith's Cormoran Strike series. If he says its in there, I believe him without question. But it still doesn't change whether or not I give the book a good review or, after reading the first novel, Cuckoo's Calling, I have any inclination to read any further, which I don't ... I thought the characters and main content of action were abysmally trite at best, and in places painfully cliche ("that's not my leg, but it's helping ... " really? really??? My own personal theory is that this is the result of her buying the bullshit of certain pundits that she needs to impress them by writing "adult" works). Fury Road may or may not follow a hero journey pattern or adapt it in certain ways or whatever, but even if all that can be demonstrated, that alone does not make it great or even good ... such things can be done in very wooden, mechanistic, and cheap ways. At the end of the day, nothing in the characters or plot left me with any inclination to want to find out more about them. The question "I wonder if this character's arc is a hero journey" never arose for me because the thought was already there "whatever kind of structure this character arc is, it is a very thin version of that structure and, more importantly, boring as hell at best" (like I said, it "just breaks my damn heart" to say it because I went in wanting to like Hardy in this role because I like him in general and I like Road Warrior, but no luck).

2. Easter egg syndrome / Seriality

I have noted this before as what I find to be a weakness in the whole MCU project, a weakness that was avoided in Logan precisely by it being an endings film. But here is seems to me like what might be at least part of what is behind Fury Road failing (in my judgment). Max just kind of slips out the side door with, as I said, that worn out trope of the world-weary style but sort of "happy(?)" half-smile. Some of my discontent may be that, while some of us are cursed to be "wanderers and stumblers," to quote Gen 4:12, that worn trope tries to turn that into something quaint (it cheapens it ... and in Fury Road, part of the cheapening is that it is so caricatured from the beginning with the eating the lizard thing, for which my thought at the time was "oh goof grief, please tell me it's not that kind of movie where there are probably aficionado's in this theater right now creaming their jeans going "oh goody, we're going to get some grotesquery!" like the little beak guy watching Jabba's tail). BUT my discontent also does have a base in a feeling of built-in incompletion for the sake a sequel, the same seriality that I have said I think makes it difficult for Marvel's main franchises ever to produce really great films ... you're not as focused on the ending because you're already trying to figure out what's going to be in the easter egg and which other Marvel strand they might try to hook this one up with (I'll have some comments below on the fact that Logan is a trilogy ender and that there are callouts, I think, to the first trilogy).


Logan Positives (aside from not being Fury Road, said the myopic critic):

Character
Logan:
It's hard to touch on Logan's character. I mean, where do you start? What's revealed in fighting with Caliban; the scenes of numbness in toting around white-holes (the tuxedo-wearing young white male bigots shouting USA driving by border patrol happenings; the young rich white girls for whom a male driver is just a prop in their movie about how much raucous fun they have); the fighting with Charles; the not being really angry at the guys trying to strip the wheels on the limo at first (til they shoot him) but just kind of world weary; the halting admission that it's not necessarily that he doesn't care enough to drive her the rest of the way ... that might be the case, but he has to admit that the situation doesn't even make it to asking whether he is unwilling because, as much as he hates to admit it because of the hurt to his pride as a man, especially one who once had such vitality, he can't physically do it: "I am fucked up ... It's a two-day drive ... and I can't make it." And the redemption is great: the initial struggling with trying to frame things in such a way that it makes sense that the kids escape and that is a good thing that he contributed to but that he is not pushed like he needs to be pushed in the direction of trying to be part of a family; and then that final "so this is what it feels like" was amazing. The "there's water" scene was well done too (that's the thing with Fury Road: for all the interestingness of its "landscape," it didn't hang any of its character "developments" on any concrete hooks, on any physical details; it's just "escape" and "kill"; but for Logan and Charles, the water means something; it symobolizes something they wanted in getting beyond the past, in getting to where they could survive peacefully, but it also has a distinct feel and multiple distinct feels that make those ideas stick: the water of the open sea under a boat, the sunseeker; the calm of a lake overlooked by a cabin in deep forests).

Oh yes, can't forget, the attacking the pickup with the shovel was classic. It's probably a male thing, but I am sure I was not the only one in the theater thinking, "hit it again, that damn mirror is still hanging on."

Charles:
The crazy old guy mix with the guy who still knows some of what is going on and has realized some more important things in life, like the need for family ... it was just a lot better done than I went in expecting. I'm not one of the people who drools over Patrick Stewart. He definitely does the job in a lot of roles, but I've never been gaga over him; I've always been more "what's the role? is it decently written? does it work for the plot? Does the actor or actress do a sufficient job of it for those needs?  ... yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't really care how good or bad of a job you think they did in this or that other movie or how much of a fan or a hater you are ... what happened in this movie?" And as far as what happened in Logan, it's that the role and Patrick Stewart both really rocked. The sticking out the tongue in the back of the truck; the "this was the most perfect night I have had in a long time ... but I don't deserve it do I?"; the pain of recognition, the excitedness in first talking to Laura, the "pharmaceutically castrated" line. I went in expecting Jackman's performance as Logan to be good and Stewart's to be sufficient for the role. But when I saw it, I realized they really nailed something.

For some reason the one that sticks out in my head the most is after the hotel seizure as Logan wheels him through the casino lobby with everybody still trying to pick themselves up, Charles crying "I'm sorry, I'm so sorry." Stewart and the director and Jackman (or whatever double was pushing the chair), in whatever weighted relationship was operating between them in doing that one, really nailed something about the regret of an older man being rushed survival-style through the carnage he inadvertently created while he was genuinely trying to do good, trying to utter what apologies he can to fleeting glimpses of victims still too muddled to have any idea what he is saying, a man a little further down the same path as Logan, frustrated in losing strength to control the collateral effects of powers that are great helps for good but potentially dangerous too if not wielded well, full of regrets for the places it went wrong.

Laura

In a FB comment to an acquaintance who said they were looking forward to seeing it when I posted that I liked it, I wrote that the one thing that might be unsettling (I mean, beyond the general amount of blood and swearing, if you're sensitive on that) is these violent actions being done by an 8 or 9 year old girl. But I also noted that it never goes to the level of bloodlust; it is rage, but it stays on the level of a feral rage that is in reaction to the oppression of the surroundings, as much defensive as offensive (I like the detail Charles throws in about the foot claw being defensive in lionesses). That rage scream she gives every time she attacks is the same yell she gives when she looks in the back of the pickup and realizes Charles is dead. The yelling when attacking is not bloodlust; it's pain.

On of my favorite scenes all three times I have seen it is has been right before that awesome Logan admission of not being physically capable of driving two days. It's when she first speaks, "de nada." And then it's a torrent of Spanish about getting to Eden, and when Logan pulls out the comic book and she thinks he is going to start talking about it positively and planning to go there her eyes light up and it is "si .. si ... si," and when it is obvious he is saying no, she sets her face and just starts repeating the names of her friends ... That is SUCH a stubborn little kid moment; very realistic and so endearing in the interplay between the little kid and the frustrated and tired adult.

And that performance of the Shane lines at the grave speaks for itself.


Other Element

Last Supper and Deposition/Pieta 

So, not every movie has to use religious tropes, and some have used them that should not have done. I'm bringing this up mainly as something that I think Logan did and that I like, but also something that I think Fury Road had some distinct potentials for and maybe made some brief allusion to but didn't, in the end, really use them, so it is sort of a point of comparison, even though, as I said, not every movie has to have them and so it's not generally something you can use in a comparative judgment between two films, but I do think it has some significance here. And part of what makes me say that is there were two things in Fury Road that distinctly gave me the "oh, wait, maybe" and then the "nah, guess not," and part of my dissatisfaction may be a feeling of that they were just throwing a bone to try to drag along certain types of viewers who like religious symbolism, but not really doing anything with it, more to the point not caring to do anything with it as long as it drags in whatever viewers it might, and if not, who cares? The two that stick in my mind are Joe saying not to be controlled by addiction to the water, which is a pretty hard thing to avoid because our bodies are made up of a majority of water, and then there is the potential for baptismal imagery, and I mean imagery with real substance connections, not just the same thing of outlines and do-it-yourself coloring, such as having them releasing the water gates at the end ... it spills all over the people but you have to be wanting to read baptism to get baptism; you have to distinctly eisogete it.The other is, if I remember rightly, some kind of tree out in the desert ... but that kind of goes nowhere unless you're determined on your own to use little details as an in to eisogete everything you can to show how great the movie is, basically because you wanted to believe that in the first place.

So, in Logan, it is a Last Supper scene and a Deposition (taking the body down from the Cross) and Pieta (Mary holding the broken body of Jesus). The Last Supper should be pretty obvious, the dinner that Logan, Charles, and Laura share with the family of three, and so what I really want to do is to clarify what of that I want to emphasize and what part of the Last Supper I think it connects with. For, it doesn't match and appeal to all aspects. There is no sacrificial victim in the meal itself. Yes, it is Charles's last meal before he dies, but he does not die as a sacrifice even in the way Logan does. What makes it a Last Supper is that the Last Supper is the institution of the Eucharist and the Eucharist is the eternal family meal ... it is a mystical participation in what will be really home in the next world, the ultimate family bonding in a meal (it's why the Eucharist is so central for Catholic and Eastern Orthodox). And that is what that meal at the farmhouse is for Charles especially, or at least he is the one who is cognizant of it as that and tries to call Logan's attention to it: this is what a home and a family is like, stop and feel it. And it is also a hope of finality ... the point of running and fighting is not, or at least should not be, for its own sake ... it's to be able to have the place called home in the end, the place portrayed so well in that meal int he farmhouse. And that meal has it's effect already on Laura. The meal is characterized by laughing and joking around: Charles being a teacher, Logan "getting kicked out several times," Charles joking that the words would stick in his throat to say that Logan was a model student. And the family is finding the humor in it and everybody is laughing in a healthy way ... and so is Laura. If you watch, she is doing the same hawklike watching she always does, but now she is mimicking because what she sees is something that feels good, that feels healthy. As with most kids, she probably doesn't get everything, but she can sense it is a healthy sharing humor, and she wants to participate. She can sense a warmth in it and is smiling too.

The second religious image is the Deposition from the Cross, the taking down of the body of Jesus. This also should be too obvious to miss, but sadly, sometimes people are too preoccupied, or too prejudiced against religious imagery, to see it. Logan's body is literally broken on a tree in giving himself to help the kids escape, and then Laura cuts him down from it by cutting the spike on which his doppleganger pinioned him. And the Pieta is daughter rather than mother, but it is a similar female holding of the slain male family, and closer familial than uncle-niece; its a parent-child relation, even if it is discovered only in the very moment that it is lost (which is kind of the point in a movie like Logan that has such a focus on transiency).

Call outs:

When I discuss call outs, I am not talking about things like the katana sword or other actual material objects that came in from previous movies but might not be noticed unless one is an aficionado looking for them. I think that is all fine and good, but what I am talking about is visual imagery such as scene textures or phrasings or positioning or such things being reminiscent of those same elements in key scenes or sections in other films. I say all that just because I am not sure what to call them such that there would be no confusion because a lot of people discuss those other objects in the same way I discuss this stuff (so I want to clear up the confusion first).

I'm aware that I am in a minority in liking XMen: Last Stand. I know that most aficionados find it to be wretched. I think it was well-done as an endings movie and had a good core issue: the person who is so powerful but so uncontrollable and the person who has to undo them does it for their own sake to put them out of their suffering ("them? I'm not doing it for them ... I'm doing it for you"), and that the person has to use continual radical healing power to even get close because of how badly the uncontrolled person is ripping them to shreds (I also thought the "right to turn it off" was a good core theme question too), and I thought the Phoenix visual was some of the downright most wicked to come out of Marvel studios, with the veins and the desiccation-like tightening of face skin and the eyes going black and the ominous smile.

Anyway, I am going to take the fact that that was the film from the original trilogy to which Logan found it easiest to make a visual call out a justification for claiming that it is actually a lot better than many Marvel "diehards" can admit. But, of course, I need to support that there actually is a visual image call out. Watch the scene in which Phoenix kills Charles in Last Stand and then  the seizure scene in the hotel in Logan. That's basically my argument: watch them and see how similar the telekenetic upheaval/stasis is (and also take into account that there are two such scenes in each movie).

I would also mention here sort of a further critique on the whole "easter egg" seriality thing. I think another connection between Last Stand and Logan, and particularly as distinct films within the seriality of the MCU, is that both close what have become distinct trilogies. Regardless of whether they had to reboot after Last Stand because it had gotten so bad, as many Marvel-heads claim, even if that is true, it is in addition to the fact that, even if it is NOT true, they had to reboot anyway because this was simply too definitive of an ending to a trilogy. I always think that multi-installment but distinctly set numbered projects (the Dark Knight Trilogy, 7-book Harry Potter, 5-movie Fantastic Beasts) are better than builtin unbounded seriality, so much better that it is a difference of kind and not of degree. I think it is why, even though other books included George Smiley, people gravitate toward speaking of the Smiley trilogy and why Terry Gilliam gravitates toward speaking of a couple different trilogies in his filmography. It hooks for us. Even though Origins and The Wolverine may not have been great, I think that being the ending of a trilogy in the first place strengthens the character of Logan, and that the same strengthened the character of Last Stand (even though XMen 1 and 2 were better than Origins and The Wolverine)

The other call out is to a film outside the Marvel Universe, and that I have already mentioned, The Book of Eli. In spite of what I have said about Logan and Fury Road being westerns, I have to say that the fact that a call out like this works latently supports a claim that Logan actually matches up better even for post-apocalyptic than Fury Road does, despite all the hype of FR as a post-apocalypse. The image of which I speak is the headphones received from a black guy, received by a Hispanic girl and carried with her in her travels. Laura didn't get them from her sacrificial savior Logan the way Solara did from Eli; call outs generally never do match up entirely because they're not meant to pin down material meaning; they're meant to bring in a flavor, and I think the headphones from a black guy does enough to bring in a little bit of flavor of Book of Eli's wasteland world with it's lawless "mastermind's" like Carnegie.

So there you have it, rambling though it be. My glowing praise of Logan and my fierce (haha) defense of my right to not like Fury Road no matter what the critics say :)